Those of you familiar with Myers Briggs personality types know that an ESTJ such as myself are very organized, and when we set out to do something it gets done and in a timely fashion - as in, QUICKLY! So, it is very difficult for my SJ personality to be in a room with people, who have all these grandiose ideas and waste my time talking about them, when the reality is, NONE of the ideas will ever come to fruition! To add insult to injury, those same big talkers who cannot seem to complete anything they start to do or even stay focused on their own job duties, will also find fault with the job others are doing and discuss ad nauseam, things that could be done to improve the outcome in the other person's area! Can we say, "FOCUS WITH ME"!!!???